Comments on: Total Church http://promiseskept.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/total-church/ Exploring the Great Rescue Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:07:47 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: promiseskept http://promiseskept.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/total-church/#comment-25 promiseskept Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:04:40 +0000 http://promiseskept.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/total-church/#comment-25 Thanks to you, too, JP. Thanks to you, too, JP.

]]> By: JP http://promiseskept.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/total-church/#comment-22 JP Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:44:06 +0000 http://promiseskept.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/total-church/#comment-22 LOL. Yes I probably have assured views like most everyone else. But my quest is honest. I believe that the answer to the illusive definition of "Gospel" it that Jesus told and showed people that God, the Father, loved and cared about them personally. I don't believe he gave any theological treatise or Christian rhetoric. He simply loved them, brought the kingdom to them and let them know it was from the Father. Simple, no big words and absolutely hated by the religious PhD's of the time. Thanks for the interaction. JP LOL. Yes I probably have assured views like most everyone else. But my quest is honest. I believe that the answer to the illusive definition of “Gospel” it that Jesus told and showed people that God, the Father, loved and cared about them personally. I don’t believe he gave any theological treatise or Christian rhetoric. He simply loved them, brought the kingdom to them and let them know it was from the Father. Simple, no big words and absolutely hated by the religious PhD’s of the time.

Thanks for the interaction.
JP

]]> By: promiseskept http://promiseskept.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/total-church/#comment-20 promiseskept Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:12:24 +0000 http://promiseskept.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/total-church/#comment-20 JP, I visited your blog, and you've got assured views on what the gospel is. So I'm wary of being baited into an argument -- not that you've been unkind or ungracious, you haven't. But arguing isn't where I'm interested in going. I don't see any problem between the "essence" I offered, and the facts you refer to. Keep in mind that there are two sides to the same gospel coin: the "ordor salutis" of God, man, sin, Christ, faith, justification; and the "historia salutis" of Creation, fall, redemption, and restoration. You can't choose a side and then say that those that chose the other side "just don't get it." At the heart of it all, the whole thing, is Jesus, and at the heart of his work and of the revelation about him is death/resurrection. For more, check out Luke 24 and Tim Keller's sermon at the Gospel Coalition, http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/plenary.php Thanks! JP, I visited your blog, and you’ve got assured views on what the gospel is. So I’m wary of being baited into an argument — not that you’ve been unkind or ungracious, you haven’t. But arguing isn’t where I’m interested in going.

I don’t see any problem between the “essence” I offered, and the facts you refer to. Keep in mind that there are two sides to the same gospel coin: the “ordor salutis” of God, man, sin, Christ, faith, justification; and the “historia salutis” of Creation, fall, redemption, and restoration. You can’t choose a side and then say that those that chose the other side “just don’t get it.” At the heart of it all, the whole thing, is Jesus, and at the heart of his work and of the revelation about him is death/resurrection.

For more, check out Luke 24 and Tim Keller’s sermon at the Gospel Coalition, http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/plenary.php

Thanks!

]]> By: JP http://promiseskept.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/total-church/#comment-19 JP Tue, 14 Aug 2007 21:42:35 +0000 http://promiseskept.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/total-church/#comment-19 Actually wasn't rhetorical. and you give a nice pastoral answer (that's not a good thing ;-) ). Jesus preached the good news to the poor before his death burial and resurrection. Are you saying he was telling them about his death burial and resurrection before it happened and that they considered it good news? Actually wasn’t rhetorical. and you give a nice pastoral answer (that’s not a good thing ;-) ).
Jesus preached the good news to the poor before his death burial and resurrection. Are you saying he was telling them about his death burial and resurrection before it happened and that they considered it good news?

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]]> By: promiseskept http://promiseskept.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/total-church/#comment-17 promiseskept Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:20:10 +0000 http://promiseskept.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/total-church/#comment-17 Hi JP, thanks for the comment. The gospel is the news of what Jesus has done for our redemption; in its most distilled essence, it is his death, burial, and resurrection (1 Cor. 15:1-4). We respond to what God has done in Jesus Christ. I think you knew this already, but in case it wasn't just rhetorical... :-) Hi JP, thanks for the comment.

The gospel is the news of what Jesus has done for our redemption; in its most distilled essence, it is his death, burial, and resurrection (1 Cor. 15:1-4).

We respond to what God has done in Jesus Christ.

I think you knew this already, but in case it wasn’t just rhetorical…

:-)

]]> By: JP http://promiseskept.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/total-church/#comment-16 JP Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:09:34 +0000 http://promiseskept.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/total-church/#comment-16 What is the Gospel, the Good News, the Glad Tidings? Think about it. I find very few Christians that have any real idea. JP http://abbagod.wordpress.com/ What is the Gospel, the Good News, the Glad Tidings? Think about it. I find very few Christians that have any real idea.

JP
http://abbagod.wordpress.com/

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